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Post by artisans on Mar 4, 2017 22:21:34 GMT 2
Travelling around the UK, since we were last here there seems to have been an explosion in the varieties of hand-crafted beers available in shops & supermarkets. Whole shelves of different ales must reflect a growing demand for ‘designer’ bottled beers, and not before time. Across in nearby Belgium & Picardie the range is enormous, and you can try several at one sitting with small taster glasses and a bowl of nibbles. One thing we haven’t seen yet in the UK are the matching beer glasses proudly sporting the brands’ logos but, hopefully, it’s only a matter of time. This is clearly a growth market, but who in Roda will be brave enough to take the first step? With the uncertainty of Brexit and the UK Government trying to keep spending at home, it is a perfect opportunity for a local bar to cater for the cosmopolitan mix of visitors we now enjoy.
Steve
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Post by daveh on Mar 5, 2017 9:00:50 GMT 2
Good idea Steve, even the younger Greeks will want. It needs a new style smart bar like in Town with initially bottled beers with msybe just Corfu Beer on draught.
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 7, 2017 2:49:33 GMT 2
Unfortunately being in the beer retail market last years summer drink won't be this years. Gin is this years young peoples tiple and growing. As like good food fusion seems to appeal and gin fits the bill. Recommendations simple ! Boathouse good selection.
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 7, 2017 3:12:12 GMT 2
The drinks with branded glasses are the usual in U.K. Carling John Smiths Amstel The others are always promotional e.g. Stella Artois Suggest if you want to promote a glass with a beer you leave it alone now. Originality is key most and Roda and Corfu in retrospect doesn't have the market to do it.
The young UN's. Ha. Say in Drunken Sailor would prefer Branded bottles I've watched them so promote new varieties !ike Corfu Cider!
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Post by Saint on Mar 7, 2017 18:20:12 GMT 2
got to agree with david the bars all have wide selections of beer, alcopops , ciders cant see any inroads for C.A.M.R.A. either . mythos ionion and the local are enough
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Post by artisans on Mar 7, 2017 22:19:27 GMT 2
Those beers, Dave & John, may be enough for the British tourist, but what I was saying is that someone needs to cater for the other nationalities who want something more recognisable. As was reported last year, some of the ‘British’ style bars are worrying that the percentage of Brits is in decline and, instead of complaining about that, the shift in nationalities creates a real opportunity. I am not talking of three or four draught beers, but a much bigger selection of bottled designer ales. I am told that ASDA in the UK now sells more than thirty different ones, but we are still way behind the French, Germans, Belgians and even Italians, all of whom are visiting Roda in increasing numbers. When will someone cater for them ...?
Steve
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 8, 2017 2:25:16 GMT 2
Italians didn't go much in the bars when we were there in "Italian Fortnight" last summer just strolled up and down after they left the beach at 7.30 ha. Mind you they can eat but dont wash it down with much.
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Post by Saint on Mar 8, 2017 9:04:22 GMT 2
it was posted on here ,by pete. that most of the non -brit visitors were not using the bars , just standing and watching ,not drinking. why provide a service that is not going to be used?cant see the young greeks supping say something like Hobgoblin.
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 8, 2017 17:45:12 GMT 2
In this country pubs buy beer in at 90p a pint lager 1.20. Huge profit margins leave you to work out how much your own local pub makes. I sell to same outlets imported beer well if its not brewed underlicence here. They buy say Naz(peroni) at 1.45 a bottle it comes in 24s. What are they charging to make profit? 3.45. they don't sell much just odd drinkers!
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 8, 2017 18:02:05 GMT 2
So what would any entrepreneurs want to open in Roda. The biggest money makers in Newcastle do the following.
Restaurants with eat as much as you want. However because you get thirsty and have children with you. Coca cola Buy it 12 litres 48 pound that's all. 2.50 a pint 1.35 a half.
Astonishing profit 12_litres lasts quite a while.
The other and IM NOT SUGGESTING THIS
Just comment. Gay bars all lads drink pints and some women too. But heaving they are away from other sites but it is a massive market. Vodka Gin Shots and of course Coca Cola.
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Post by Saint on Mar 8, 2017 22:04:32 GMT 2
am a bit baffled, from my point of view i dont want to drink fosters ,carling john smiths or any "british beer" whilst in roda. Or in fact any country outside the UK,why would any of the nationalities you list want to drink the beer of their country when abroad . It reminds me of the debate a few years back re fish n chips , if i want them i go to the local chippy not maggies
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Post by davidandpaula2012 on Mar 8, 2017 22:59:47 GMT 2
That's my point entirely Mythos is a great drink when I'm in Roda woudnt drink it here though prefer beer. So when in Rome ha do what the Romans do haha
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Post by artisans on Mar 24, 2017 23:33:55 GMT 2
As we continue our trip across Europe, I still maintain that bottled ales present a huge opportunity for an enterprising bar in Roda. When we were in Cardiff recently, even a small deli like Walley’s was selling over fifty bottled beers. In spite of being the country of wine, the larger French supermarkets are offering as many as 120 such beers ('London Pride' being the only UK brand we saw other than Guinness) and, two weeks ago, the Daily Telegraph reported that the number of new breweries in Britain jumped by 55% last year. Figures suggest that craft beer now accounts for up to 9% of beer sold in licensed premises in Britain, and mainstream beer brands are beginning to suffer as a result. Perhaps it’s the lack of choice that prevents people visiting British-orientated bars in Roda, or is it something else? Whatever, I would predict that a bar rising to this new challenge could do extremely well.
Steve
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Post by saint on Mar 25, 2017 12:23:37 GMT 2
problem with a lot of beers is they dont travel well,i recall drinking a beer in Durham ,it was top notch ,found a club that sold it in Sthelens ,it was awful .Iam going to spain in april i wont be looking for english ale for sure .Added to that is the price of imported beer in the bars IE the likes of copperburg[yes i know its cider] or johnsmiths,peroni becks the list as i said in my earlier post is endless.
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Post by artisans on Apr 8, 2018 23:07:52 GMT 2
Having travelled north from Roda to Scotland, and back south again across several countries, two drinking trends are becoming more obvious. The lovely, pale Rose wines from the south of France are finding their way north to a supermarket near you. In Provence, some large supermarkets have whole aisles dedicated to this one range of products and they are even appearing in Corfu, courtesy of Greek producers.
The second most noticeable trend is one I've mentioned before - the migration south of bottled ales. In spite of what some people might think, this tide is running and it's time it reached us down in Greece. Even in the south of France, you can find three or four British ales in addition to all the local and Northern European varieties. I see that Shepherd Neame's 'Spitfire' ale is now sold in about 7 or 8 countries, but not yet in Greece. I look forward to the day it makes its debut ...
Steve
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