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Post by guest on Jul 25, 2010 19:20:18 GMT 2
This was taken from another forum We have stayed there twice the last time being in June this year. As has been said they are opposite the the harbour bar at the far end of the village. The apartments are like most other, basic but clean, towels & bedding are changed twice a week although during our stay they were only changed once during the second week for some reason, one down side with the rooms is the lack of sound proofing. The pool area is spot on although a bit on the small side & his charges for drinks & snacks are reasonable. I would be careful about booking through the official roda site as us & other people we met there that had booked through them were charged 70 euros more than if we had booked direct with Makis (he is currently charging 35 euro a night) If you have a night flight then he will charge you 20 euro to keep your room on. If it wasn't for this fact we would have gone back there again, but as it stands if we go back to Roda we will be staying elsewhere. Can you advise if it is more expensive booking through the roda site? Thankyou
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Post by sthelenssaint on Jul 25, 2010 19:58:41 GMT 2
we paid 350 euros 19th june to 2nd july booking direct with makis should have been 325 but i am not complaining makis price was 25 euros per night , he charged my daughter 150euros for 6 nights. no problems with towels or bedlinen changed 3 times each week. older type studios basic but clean , no different to others. non slip edge to pool a bit to abrasive to kids fingers and toes, buy some of the cooured trainers from the shop opposite , i found that prices quoted on this website where a little bit more than actual price . john
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Post by jacks on Jul 25, 2010 22:12:08 GMT 2
I'm sure that Makis is charging 25 Euros for the studios & 35 Euros for the Apartment.....if I remember rightly.
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Post by artisans on Jul 25, 2010 23:11:09 GMT 2
This is the situation with Makis Apartments as far as Roda Online is concerned.
In March, in response to a telephone call from someone in Roda, Makis unexpectedly turned up to discuss having a page on Roda Online under Roda Pages. The details were discussed and he decided to go ahead. When it came to room rates, Makis asked for our advice and, to match other accommodations in the village, we recommended he should charge the following rates:
May & October - 12 euros per person per night June & September - 14 euros per person per night July & August - 17 euros per person per night
Makis wanted to offer sensible prices in his first year as an independent, but he then said that he wanted us to take all his bookings for him, even though he had a perfectly good email address of his own. We felt that we did not have the time nor the wish to do this so we declined, but he insisted. We eventually said we would deal with his enquiries in the short term and we would take 1 euro per person to spend on things for the village such as posters, cards, printing etc., Makis insisted that was not enough and we finally agreed on 2 euros per person. There was no agreement as to how the money would be paid nor when, and, from our point of view, we did not want nor expect it. We were happy to help Makis in his first year, because his is an important and popular venue.
To date, no money has changed hands and it turns out that Makis has taken other bookings without our knowledge. We have no control or influence over this and it is up to him to do the best for his business. He has, at all times, been informed of any bookings we have taken through Roda Online, and any special requirements. If he has decided to accept bookings from elsewhere, then that is his prerogative. If he has decided to offer alternative prices, then that is beyond our control. We have received nothing from him, and neither do we want to. If he offers Roda Online any money at the end of the season, it will be refused. We will not be persuaded to offer this service again to anyone.
Steve
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Post by quest on Jul 25, 2010 23:32:04 GMT 2
We stayed in june & paid 30 euro a night for a studio, booked through this site, as Steve says Makis was difficult to contact.
Makis was charging 25 euro a night.
We paid 420 for 2 weeks before we saw his lower prices in his bar.
When we questioned Makis he conveniently couldn't speak good English. Why didn't he give us the overcharged 70 euro back?
It didn't spoil our holiday but it did put a dampener on it, just like all the rain. ;D
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Post by sthelenssaint on Jul 26, 2010 7:59:22 GMT 2
like isaid iwas offered 25 euros rate in oct 09. you steve said that seemed a bit low, but that is the rate i paid .it seems apperently you have been ,to say the least a little niave .
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Post by artisans on Jul 26, 2010 9:48:41 GMT 2
All I know John is that Makis asked us what to charge when, in fact, he should have decided for himself. The only information we could give him was the rate that seemed to be applied by other similar accommodations in the village who were testing the indpendent market for the first time. This was not advice, just information. At that time, two-person studios were being charged at 24, 28 & 34 euros per night according to the season and four - person apartments at 48, 56 & 68. Makis thought that some of these turned out to be too expensive so he discounted some of them by, from memory, up to 17%. He then wanted us to add 2 euros on to each. Not exactly a firm pricing policy, especially as he then went and made special deals for old customers and advertised a different rate at the bar. Naïve, gullible, confused? - yes, all of these.
At the end of the day, the price of something is what you can get for it and it is up to Makis to charge whatever he wants to whomever he wants. If he wants to make a 'special offer', why shouldn't he? Thomas Cook do and some people pay four times as much as those who get the best deals and it is understandable that they feel hard done to. You may remember the comments from jomike erlier in the season.
With one full season under their belts, it will be interesting to see how prices will be modified for 2011. The one thing you can be sure of is that we will not be involved in decisions of this kind.
Steve
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Post by guest on Jul 26, 2010 16:26:08 GMT 2
Makis didn't & isn't doing himself any favours.
He should have 1 price for everyone.
People talk to each other & compare prices for flights, accommodation & car hire etc by the pool or in the bars.
Its his first year as an independent & he needs the repeat business that Roda relies on.
If people feel that they have been ripped off... they wont stay with Makis again, his loss.
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Post by artisans on Jul 26, 2010 21:52:39 GMT 2
All the big tour companies change prices on a whim - or as part of an agreed strategy. The difference is that we know Makis and this makes it personal. We excuse the Tui type companies for exploiting their customers, taking all the money out of Greece and pandering to their anonymous shareholders around the world, but Makis is answerable to each of us individually. I would still rather support him than some mega-commercial venture. The bottom line is - does he provide value for money and can we satisfy both our needs and his? It's all a matter of choice and may the best man win.
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Post by pete sant on Jul 27, 2010 9:53:53 GMT 2
Friends of ours who are members of this forum booked - through the forum - to stay with Makis in June, when they arrived and saw his advertised prices they were a bit dissappointed but when they saw how quiet the village was said that they understood him trying to attract more custom, after all, various bars & restaurants were doing the same thing, no one complained if they paid 8 euros for a meal one night, to find it on the specials board for 7 euros the next night. At the end of the day they said that they were happy with what they had paid and as usual had a great holiday. Given that this is Makis's first year as an independent perhaps he should be given the benefit of the doubt in the hope that he will learn from this and advertise his prices accordingly next year. pete.
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Post by lisydaly on Jul 27, 2010 14:45:56 GMT 2
I'm sorry but there is a bit of a difference in paying an extra euro for a meal and 70 euro extra for a studio/apartment. If makis is taking private bookings he should keep prices on a par - as a previous poster said - people talk, and if it was me sat by the pool chatting to someone who had paid considerably less than I had because they had booked a different way (direct or through this site) I would be fuming - especially if it was for the same type of accomodation. This is not on - tour operators, yes, it's a given that they alter their prices at the drop of a hat, but this isn't the way to attract new business when they are going private. And it isn't only these apartments - loads of people contacting owners to pay them direct instead of paying the tour companies are being told the cost of the stay is anything up to 4 times the cost of a package holiday. It's a no-brainer which they are going to choose. And before anyone remarks - yes, it has happened to us. I understand the concept of 'mates rates' all too well. A good few years ago we stayed with a long time Greek friend in his apartments in Acharavi - we were the mates. I was absolutely blazing mad to find that we were in the equivalent of a cupboard for 3 weeks while next door were two first-timers to Corfu in a 3 bed apartment who were paying a deal less then we were. Needless to say we never used the apartments again, neither did friends, and we also stopped using his bar for a good few years. I have since re-established the friendship (40 years now) and had an abject apology for what happened but it still left a very sour taste and I still do not use the bar apart from once to pop in and say hello. Not the way to go Makis - get it sorted. The damage is done - the post on the other site has been well-read and no doubt opinions formed by what could have been good customers.
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Post by jacks on Jul 27, 2010 16:19:06 GMT 2
To be fair, if you were booking with Makis direct, you were being charged what was advertised.
It was when booking on here, it was more.
He wasn't just deciding day by day what to charge people.
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Post by sthelenssaint on Jul 27, 2010 18:43:15 GMT 2
like i said previously i was qouted 25 euros per night in october 09 .iwould have been upset if on arrival iwas given a different price .if you look back on the thread where steve took bookings this price was 2-3 euros dearer and has been explained why .many times i have booked early with a company only to find sitting next to someone paying less ,thats how it goes . but like lisydaly states 70 euro is not a sum to be sneezed at or dismissed ,by comparing to a 1 euro cut to a meal whilst the village was quiet it was better than i have seen it in the past 5 years. the answer is book direct with makis, then you know the price ,book through a third party and the possibilities of on-cost may occur .
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Post by pete sant on Jul 27, 2010 20:31:31 GMT 2
The point i was trying to make was that the people that booked through this forum were happy with the price qouted to them or they would not have booked it in the first place , the fact that on arrival the going rate was lower was to other people's benefit and did not have them up in arms demanding a refund. This sort of thing has probably happened to everyone in one form or another over the years and whilst perhaps not being the cleverest thing Makis could have done it amounts to one drink each per day - not the end of the world surely ? pete.
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Post by sthelenssaint on Jul 27, 2010 21:11:54 GMT 2
as stated i paid 350 19 june to2nd july 13 NIGHTS paid 25 over the odds told makis to keep it for the cleaner.70 euros ? not the end of the world for me. but maybe to someone on a tight budget in these austere times ,it probably is ,,, ps vat also rose 3%the second week on some items
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